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		<title>SeanParent: /* Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numbers are often constrained to ranges and increments and such &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;ranges&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numbers are often constrained to ranges and increments and &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;an appropriate view for a range may be a non-linear scale &lt;/ins&gt;such &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;as logarithmic. Making the valid range discoverable, handling of invalid entries (see Filtering vs. Validation), and representation for the scale and increments for analog input are all issues. The range and increments should also come into play in the choice for the width of the edit_number field.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;There should also be a mechanism to &amp;quot;bump&amp;quot; a value up and down by a meaningful increments (which may not be the same as a limiting increment on the value) - bumping values should be accessible from both the keyboard an mouse.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Filtering vs. Validation ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Filtering vs. Validation ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>SeanParent: /* Exceptional Cases */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Exceptional Cases&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numbers are often constrained to ranges and increments and such ranges&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numbers are often constrained to ranges and increments and such ranges&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Exceptional Cases &lt;/del&gt;==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Filtering vs. Validation &lt;/ins&gt;==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Analog Representation ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Analog Representation ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>SeanParent: /* Units and Related Values */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Units and Related Values&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numbers are an interpretation of &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;_something_&lt;/del&gt;. Any physicist will tell you that all numbers have a unit associated with them. A single number can often represented in multiple units - such as inches and cm. Within a UI a user should be able to change the units a value is displayed in, as well as change the unit a value is interpreted in. There are two distinct operations &amp;quot;show me this 3cm value as inches&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;interpret this 3 as 3 inches.&amp;quot; Often units are related to other values - for example the inches width in an image is related to the resolution of the image - it's percentage width may be related to a previous size. The size a video will take up on disk is a function of many variables (time, frame size, compression). Depending on the unit, the related values may change. This is why in the current edit_number allows separate binding per unit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Numbers are an interpretation of &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''something''&lt;/ins&gt;. Any physicist will tell you that all numbers have a unit associated with them. A single number can often &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;be &lt;/ins&gt;represented in multiple units - such as inches and cm. Within a UI a user should be able to change the units a value is displayed in, as well as change the unit a value is interpreted in. There are two distinct operations &amp;quot;show me this 3cm value as inches&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;interpret this 3 as 3 inches.&amp;quot; Often units are related to other values - for example the inches width in an image is related to the resolution of the image - it's percentage width may be related to a previous size. The size a video will take up on disk is a function of many variables (time, frame size, compression). Depending on the unit, the related values may change. This is why in the current edit_number allows separate binding per unit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>SeanParent at 19:46, 25 September 2007</title>
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				<updated>2007-09-25T19:46:36Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is a place to collect thoughts on building a better edit_number widget.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Background ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Editing numbers is fairly fundamental within a UI. Numbers, always have some semantic interpretation - they mean something. Often the semantics of a number are so specialized that it deserves a separate widget - a good example is a data/time widget.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the a common use of numbers in UI is to represent measured values such as distance, weight, opacity, intensity, count, etc. Such measured values should be treated consistently within the UI (even here, we only have a guideline - selecting an angle is an example of a measured value which likely deserves a custom widget).&lt;br /&gt;
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This page lists the desired attributes of a good edit_number widget - some of these attributes apply more broadly to other widgets but edit_number is such a commonly used widget that exploring it is a good way to cover many issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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The issues to consider in the design of this one widget are all quite entangled - choices made in one area impact another. This page doesn't attempt to design a solution - only to organize and list the issues.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Units and Related Values ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Numbers are an interpretation of _something_. Any physicist will tell you that all numbers have a unit associated with them. A single number can often represented in multiple units - such as inches and cm. Within a UI a user should be able to change the units a value is displayed in, as well as change the unit a value is interpreted in. There are two distinct operations &amp;quot;show me this 3cm value as inches&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;interpret this 3 as 3 inches.&amp;quot; Often units are related to other values - for example the inches width in an image is related to the resolution of the image - it's percentage width may be related to a previous size. The size a video will take up on disk is a function of many variables (time, frame size, compression). Depending on the unit, the related values may change. This is why in the current edit_number allows separate binding per unit.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Valid Ranges, Increments, and Scales ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Numbers are often constrained to ranges and increments and such ranges&lt;br /&gt;
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== Exceptional Cases ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analog Representation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Accessibility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Interactivity and Commit ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Display vs. Disabled ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Locking, Recording, and Related Values ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Expressions ==&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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